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DISCUSSWhy Creflo Dollar Needs His Dollars
| 11/08/2007Every time we write about Creflo Dollar we have to point out that this is not one of those fake news articles we've sometimes managed to foist onto the public, and that the name Creflo Dollar was not used by Charles Dickens to describe a wheezing barrister in a pub, nor was it invented by a heavy-handed satirist attempting to lampoon a greedy Ukrainian.
No, Creflo Dollar is a real person, one of the six televangelists who got letters from the Senate Finance Committee on Monday, asking them to send in detailed accounting statements proving that they're not converting church money to their personal use.
More specifically, Creflo Dollar is the pastor of World Changers Church International of College Park, Georgia. Presumably he chose that name himself, completely free of fear that it would be soon be better known as Money Changers Church International by the 30,000 members who weekly enrich its coffers and make it possible for Creflo to maintain the two jets—one Gulfstream 3 and one Lear—that he uses to shuttle back and forth between Madison Square Garden (where he does a Saturday night service for an audience of 6,000) and Atlanta (where he does a Sunday morning service), not to mention occasional visits to his offices in the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia and Nigeria.
Creflo's wife Taffi Dollar—and here we remind you once again that we are not lapsing into fiction at any point during the creation of this article—Taffi Dollar is responsible for the household budget at the $3 million Dollar mansion in Atlanta, and the more modest $2.44 million Dollar condo overlooking Central Park in Manhattan.
Asked about the Dollar dollars by CBS News yesterday, Dollar said it was untrue that he had two Rolls-Royces (we'd actually heard it was two Rolls-Royces and one Humvee, but who's keeping track?)—that he only had one Rolls and it was given to him by his congregation as a surprise. He also said he did not give $500,000 of church funds to fellow "prosperity gospel" evangelist Kenneth Copeland on the occasion of Copeland's 40th wedding anniversary—although he did not say how much he did give—so we want to be very careful when we say that the annual budget for Dollar's operation, his overhead dollars, is about $80 million. (Note to Creflo: Get back to us if we're a little off on that number.)
The interesting aspect of this story, however, is that so many of these prosperity-gospel guys do funnel money back to Copeland in so many ways that it almost looks like a pyramid scheme. Actually that's too harsh—what it really resembles is the marketing structure of Mary Kay Cosmetics, set up so that every time a salesperson recruits another salesperson, he or she gets a cut of the commission. And the reason that all roads lead to Copeland—see our summary of Copeland's organization in the investigative cartooning feature "Lifestyles of the Rich and Religious"—is that he's the granddaddy of what goes by many names—like "positive confession"—but is most commonly called "Word Faith."
If you look for the theological origins of "Word Faith," you end up in Tulsa, of course, and specifically at RHEMA Bible College in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, which was founded by Kenneth E. "Papa" Hagin (1917-2003), the man who pretty much created the American-style health-and-wealth preaching so familiar from late-night television. Copeland was a student there, as well as at Oral Roberts University, which veers close to RHEMA in its theology but is not always on the same page. (Truth be told, every prosperity preacher is his own theology school, since part of the basis for the teaching is direct special revelation from God, which makes all these guys the heirs of the original gnostics.) But if RHEMA had a creed, it would go something like this:
- God's covenant with Abraham means that God has to deliver on his part of the deal, so anything you ask for in the name of Jesus, God is required to give you. (Should we quote some Janis Joplin lyrics here?)
- Man is equal to God in every respect. Or, in the words of Copeland, "You don't have a God in you! You are one!" (Tom Cruise would like this one.)
- Jesus was not the son of God, he was a man empowered by God to be just like God, and everyone who knows this can do the same thing. (We're not sure we have this one exactly right, but it's basically "Be Jesus, go ahead, He won't mind, you're soulmates.")
- Jesus went down into hell where he took on Satan's nature, until he was born again, and re-emerged to start the church. (Presumably they preach this one on Halloween.)
- Anything you speak and believe, with understanding, will come true just as you want it. (Yes, this seems like it's the same as number one, but that one is about what God has to do, and this one is about what you have to do. It's the "positive confession" part, the idea that your thought processes can command God to act.)
- God promises in Isaiah 53 to heal every physical illness of anyone who has faith. (As our mentor Ole Anthony once said, "Then why aren't there thousands of 200-year-old billionaires in Tulsa?")
- Any Christian who believes in poverty is outside God's will. (Well, take that, you cloistered loser in the hairshirt.)
There are more, but these are the biggies. I would imagine that at this point you're starting to see why taking away Creflo Dollar's dollars could amount to more than just a little lifestyle adjustment. It pretty much goes to the heart of the whole Kahuna.
Hey, this is the guy who answered YES when asked by an anchorman if he thought Jesus would drive a Rolls-Royce! Hot damn.
To be fair, Jesus thinks Bentleys are just too ostentatious.
How do you know that? Did he tell you?
WWJD = What Would Jesus Drive?
- Hudson Wasp
- AMC Spirit
- Buick La Crosse
- a pair of Oldsmobiles: an Alero Alpha and an Omega
- Dodge Crusader
- Dodge Omni
- Ford Ikon
- Opel Signum
- Hyundai Genesis
- Hundai Grace
- Kia Soul
- Suzuki Cultus
- a couple of Honda Logos
- Mazda Millenia (some argument whether this has been bought yet)
- Mazda Persona (one of three family cars)
- Mazda Carol (for winter driving)
- Rolls Royce Silver Seraph
- Anything by Innocenti
I asked Richard Dawkins, tho', and he said a Daihatsu Charade.
I think St Sebastian had a few Pierce-Arrows, by the way.
I Always Thought He'd Drive A Honda!!
Afterr All,It says"We Shall Come In One accord."!!
I think David drove a Triumph, because the Bible says "David Triumphed."
i think Jesus will give away just as many honda's to his members that would equall to the amount of those rose royces the lear jets and the mansions, after all you can't ride but one donkey at a time, live in one tent at a time (Abraham).So stop fleecing the flock ,and stop preaching what you practice, and practice what you preach,creflo and your fake father Ken.
I don't understand why we as people want good and nice things but when it comes to preachers everyone wants to say it's wrong. Everyone always think these powerful Men of God is stealing money but do not realize all these men have best selling books and other investments that generate money and if you really knew what you were talking about you would know that his income, which he do deserve because it's his job, from the church does not compare to all his money making resources that he has. Did you know he also owns a recording studio ARROW RECORDS. So point being is if you have a problem with him or what he does, don't support his ministry and don't talk about it especially if you don't know the whole story. Some people don't have a problem with Donald Trump being wealthy why do they have a problem with preachers being wealthy? They are the one hepling them get to that point so I say SHUT UP it has nothing to do with you!
he would ride public transport. heck he might even be the bus driver.
WOw..People must not know the word...Study and find out..Don't just say what u think u know...I ask in the name of Jesus to please forgive all yal'll out there who is lost..
you the creator of this web site i am praying for you how dare you touch Gods anointed. for it is written touch not my anointed nor do my prophets no harm. It is also written; As long as the Earth remains seed time and harvest shall not seise. So this is a warning of love unto thee, stop doing satans work of division for it is written an house divided against it bself cannot stand
Where in the Bible does God annoint Creflo?
Where is that he did not?
Ooh, ooh- I'm annointed too! The Bible specifically does not say that I'm not, so I must be... please send money to the following P.O. Box...
You are a fool! What a question. Is your own name in the Bible?
As a matter of fact mine is!
True the Bible says that a house divided against itself shall not stand. So why many denominations? Oh yeah, where did God ever anoint Creflo?
True the Bible says that a house divided against itself shall not stand. So why many denominations? VERY VERY good question...i often ponder this in my mind..obviously EGO plays into this somehow..i think....but all the opposing beliefs (doctrines) can"t all be right..or can they?..in some twilight zone sort of way with God who looks at mens hearts...i dont know.......................
Again - where does it say he did not? Try looking at John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
We can always grab a verse or two out of context and make it git just about any argument we want to present: "Judas went out and hanged himself", "Go, and do likewise".
And although I might be accused of doing the same thing, this passage came to mind:
1 Timothy 4
1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
Yeah ok...but who was Jesus talking to? Not you, or I...Jesus was merely telling his disciples to establish the church - which they did.
The Bible is very clear about what is being said, and to whom it is being said. It's odd how come so-called Christians are easily confused and deceived.
gullible blind needy and spineless..........Creflo NEEDS YOU
Creflo NEVER needed you or anyone else to tell him that God is his provider-by the way who is yours? you low life not living up to your full potential, wanna be - HATER!!!
My brothers and sisters let us remember to pray for our enemies and the enemies of Creflo Dollar, Benny Hill, Kenneth Copeland, Eddie Long, Joyce Meyers,etc. Pray that God open the unbelievers eyes so that they will see the truth. The enemy wants to keep then blind to the truth of God. The enemy knows that if they can really see that God desires to bless them and not only bless them but to make them over comers in every area of their lives, he knows that he will have to cease from telling and spreading his lies. He wants to keep them in the dark about the truth of God.
WARNING to the Wittenburg Door: I kindly and humbly ask you to please stop you bashing of the MEN OF GOD. Some of the things that you are going through in your lives right now are as a result to the lies and untruth that you are spreading about the MEN OF GOD. I promise you it will only get worse. I pray that you allow God to show you the truth.
THE PALE (GREEN) HORSE = CREFLO DOLLAR = DEATH = "FOLLOWED BY HADES (HELL).." = DEATH OF ALL KINDS AND CAUSES = KEPT LOW (PROFILE) = "KEPT LO (THE LAMB) DOLLAR.." = THE REAPER OF YOUR HARVEST = SCARECROW = "MAKES YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL.." = TALES OF THE CRYPT = CREEPY = NIGHTCRAWLER = JEEPERS CREEPERS = "THROWS DEAD PROSTITUTE BODIES IN THE CREEK.." = SLOW CREEP (SNEAK UP) = "COME UP FROM BEHIND AND SLICE YOUR THROAT.." = JACK THE RIPPER = SHERLOCKE HOLMES = DR. JECKYLL AND MR. HYDE = THE MAN IN THE MIRROR = "A MAN DURING THE DAY, AND KILLER AT NIGHT.." "TO KILL WITH A SWORD, AND WITH HUNGER, AND WITH DEATH, AND WITH THE BEASTS (DEVILS) OF THE FIELD (EARTH).." "THEY ARE THE REVEREND SAMS.." = SAMUEL = "POISON THOSE OF EL = EL HARIS = ABU GHIMR = HAYLAL BAR SHAKHAR
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these men are getting my prayers because they are damned and going to hell. They help themselves and no other. God wants us all to be rich and wealthy? No. Suffering and problems are a part of our walk for without problems, there can be no providence.But, if you love the theology they teach, stick with it. And when your faith has been destroyed , the TRUE God will be lovingly waiting for you.
Great post by Wittenburg. Please do more on them.
This conversations I am reading is useless. Both need to be better informed and both show hate and lack of obediance to the Word of God. When all else falls by the way side, the Word of God WILL still stand as the Bread of Life. May Your heart open to it. Shalom!
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These hucksters and charlatans are modern-day Tetzels on steroids and amphetamines, clearly in need of anti-delusional medications as well.
I suppose you're right about YOUR Creflo. However, why is it Creflo and the others of his ilk always tell his members to pray and wait on God to reward them, yet he doesn't take his own advice? He tells you to send/give him CASH NOW -- he doesn't WAIT on God. Think about it. Creflo has his millions/billions because earthly idiots BLESS him with their hard earned cash. You can serve God without being dumb. You guys let these Pulpit Reachers rip you off and you are too stupid to see it.
I belong to a church and give what I want to and that is between me and God not between me and some flesh preacher. I take from the sermons what I need. EVERYBODY is responsible for his own soul. Your preacher is not responsible for your soul-- you are. The Bible says to discern the spirits (that includes inside the church). Bible also says to TRUST NO (REPEAT NO) man. Think on that last statement.
Creflo does not need you - but Christ wants you - therefor, if you choose you can listen to Creflo, he will teach you the Word. Practice what the Lord leads you to - not concerning yourself with the world thoughts on you. Just God.
Dude get a clue! Christians please wake up! The church needs to wake from its slumber. Think outside the box we need to listen to the Holy Spirit not to man. Hear the heart of the father! It's not a religion it's a relationship.
AMEN!! WELL SAID
You, the author of this comment, should be pray to god for the ability to spell. All you have to do is ask and so ye' shall be granted. You can be a regular Einstein just by believing in Jesus!
A missing "e"
Could be a typo - could me a misspelling.
NOT REALLY THE POINT - HUH??
If this is the best you have to offer - you and a lack of proper grammar - maybe you should offer nothing.
Stay on task.
By the way - Einstein was considered retarded. Only later in life was he regarded as a genius. YEH! With God (capital "G", by the way)- that is not out of the question.
Your reasoning seems ironic latter on in life Einstein actually became an atheist by the modern one who does not believe in god definition of the word. He even criticised the existance of the afterlife.If you don't believe me you can research it if you want to.
Explain to me why god is so often commended as being the cause for the good stuff that happens to people, but never the bad? "5 of the 100 passengers on the burning plane escaped. It's a miracle, God is watching over his children." Really? What about the other 95 people who died horrible deaths? What do you say to them? "Umm, yeah, well god wasn't paying attention to you. Sorry you burned up. God works in mysterious ways, you can't understand Him because He is so great and wonderful, he cannot be questioned. Yeah, that's it."
UPDATE-while typing this, I saw a news report about a guy who survived a gunshot wound to his belly, when he was told he wouldn't live. At the end he was quoted as saying "By the grace of God, I lived." Where was God when the guy GOT SHOT??????????????
You idiot!! He survived, didn't he?
don't be so stupid; they might have BEEN annointed but that was long
ago before they sided with the world and its riches. let's pray they
wake up and repent and remember that you cannot serve two masters; NO one is as important as these folk pretend to be
You need to take your head out of your fundamental ass friend.
People like Dollar depend on the brain dead programmed masses of their insipid followers to defend their wrong doings. You people alway quote the same scriptures "Touch Not My Anointed..." Ect.
Like a good mindless sheep....straight to the slaughter house!!
THE PALE (GREEN) HORSE = CREFLO DOLLAR = DEATH = "FOLLOWED BY HADES (HELL).." = DEATH OF ALL KINDS AND CAUSES = KEPT LOW (PROFILE) = "KEPT LO (THE LAMB) DOLLAR.." = THE REAPER OF YOUR HARVEST = SCARECROW = "MAKES YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL.." = TALES OF THE CRYPT = CREEPY = NIGHTCRAWLER = JEEPERS CREEPERS = "THROWS DEAD PROSTITUTE BODIES IN THE CREEK.." = SLOW CREEP (SNEAK UP) = "COME UP FROM BEHIND AND SLICE YOUR THROAT.." = JACK THE RIPPER = SHERLOCKE HOLMES = DR. JECKYLL AND MR. HYDE = THE MAN IN THE MIRROR = "A MAN DURING THE DAY, AND KILLER AT NIGHT.." "TO KILL WITH A SWORD, AND WITH HUNGER, AND WITH DEATH, AND WITH THE BEASTS (DEVILS) OF THE FIELD (EARTH).." "THEY ARE THE REVEREND SAMS.." = SAMUEL = "POISON THOSE OF EL = EL HARIS = ABU GHIMR = HAYLAL BAR SHAKHAR
Source MYKA’EL YORK
Go to www.MySpace.com/the19elder
I am a sheep you are a goat and you go to the left and I go to the right GOT IT!!!!
You spelled "prophet" wrong. In this case, it's "profit!"
And I sincerely doubt it was the Lord God who anointed ANY of these greedy phonies!
Driving Rolls Royces, flying private jets, living in mansions.....money they STOLE from elderly people on Social Security and poor widows! They should be ashamed of themselves!
As for you, I suggest you pray for discernment!
"God's annointed"? Please. "God's con artist" is more like it. If Creflo and Taffi (silly name, silly just like her verbally quivering attempts at preaching) are "prophets" at all then they're both false prophets at best. Take away all of their "word faith" offerings, and "love offerings", and "seed faith" piles of money that they finagle from their suckers, oops, meant "flock", and then watch what they say and do.
THE ONLY THING I SEE IS ALOT OF SLANDER SO IF YOU HAVE NOT ANY THING NICE TO SAY KEEP YOUR UGLY MOUTH SHUT BEFORE THE LORD MY GOD THE FATHER OF JESUS SHUTS IT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"IF YOU HAVE NOT ANY THING NICE TO SAY KEEP YOUR UGLY MOUTH SHUT BEFORE THE LORD MY GOD THE FATHER OF JESUS SHUTS IT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Are you serious? That's not a very nice thing to say.
COME ON GUYS, LETS GET REAL! 1ST OFF CREFLO FOLLOWS KENNETH COPELAND , WHO IS A 33RD DEGREE FREEMASON AND IF YOU KNOW ANY THING AND MASONS AND WHAT THE WORSHIP YOU WOULD STOP ALL THE FOOLISH TALK!
REMEMBER THE BATTLE BETWEEN GOD AND SATAN IS REAL, AND WE ALL KNOW WHO THE WINNER IS.
DO THE RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF
jesus is lord
MS. FIRST LADY LATEEFAH T. MULLINS NICKNAME SABARINA T. DOLLAR WHAT A FRIEND THAT I HAVE TO YOU CREFLO A DOLLAR. PRIVATE NOW MADE PUBLIC.THREW HOURS UPS IN DOWN I STILL HAVE LOVE FOR YOU CREFLO A. DOLLAR IN CHRIST JESUS
yea, Did he tell you?
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